Episode 112: Steve Jamison on Process Over Outcome, and How He Became a Co-author with John Wooden and Bill Walsh

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In this episode of Meet Education Project, I talk to Steve Jamison, the foremost authority on the life and leadership of UCLA coach John Wooden, about the leadership lessons and strategies he learned from John Wooden and Bill Walsh, the differences between the two, their long-term success over time and many other things that have an impact on what we look at as far as fantastic teaching and how that can be applied to the classroom.

Guest Bio:

Steve JamisonSteve Jamison is a best-selling author and America’s preeminent authority on the leadership philosophy of UCLA’s legendary Coach John Wooden whose basketball dynasty won ten March Madness national championships.

For over a decade Mr. Wooden and Mr. Jamison have collaborated on projects including five best-selling books, an award-winning PBS television special,  WOODEN: Values, Victory, and Peace of Mind, and numerous personal appearances.

The Essential Wooden (McGraw-Hill), their latest published work, has received rave reviews from Dr. Stephen Covey, Ken Blanchard, John Maxwell, Oracle’s Chairman, Jeff Henley, and others.

The Essential Wooden follows the success of WOODEN ON LEADERSHIP (McGraw-Hill), My Personal Best: Life Lessons from an All American Journey (McGraw-Hill), and the acclaimed classic, WOODEN: A Lifetime of Observations and Reflections (Contemporary).

Mr. Jamison and Mr. Wooden also publish a series of children’s books – Coach Wooden for Kids© — including INCH and MILES: The Journey to Success(Perfection Learning). Their books are published worldwide.

Mr. Jamison is the Executive Producer of the PBS presentation WOODEN: Values, Victory, and Peace of Mind and Executive Director of the John Wooden Leadership seminar, a teaching forum dedicated to furthering the principles of John Wooden’s philosophy of leadership.

Additionally, Mr. Jamison authored the world’s most popular tennis instruction book, Winning Ugly: Mental Warfare in Tennis (Simon and Schuster), with legendary coach Brad Gilbert and Andre Agassi. They are currently preparing a sequel.

(Source: http://stevejamison.com/)

Show Notes:

(02:07) When someone says, “What do you do?” how do you answer that question?

(04:00) Can you tell us about the story about how you first met these three guys and how you developed the relationship and trust to become the collaborator that they work with.

(06:25) So that’s Brad Gilbert. What about coach Wooden and how you developed that relationship?

(08:30) What are the keys to telling these stories, in really getting the essence of the philosophies. Why don’t you unpack your style and your tips a little bit.

(10:33) Do you have any tips as far as your interview style, how you frame these conversations as you’re preparing?

(15:20) We talk about adversity as opportunity. How much do you believe struggle and adversity was a part of John Wooden’s leadership style?

Most all good things come through adversity.

Adversity accompanies achievement.

(18:45) One of coach Wooden’s mentors was his coach in Purdue, and he mentions that “The team that makes the most mistakes wins.”

The ultimate success is how hard you work to bring out your best.

The score takes care of itself. You have to take care of the process.

(23:02) If you’re looking at the best leaders of all time, it’s about consistency over time. It’s not just about winning. Effort is at the top of all those guys’ (coaches) thing.

(25:38) I’m curious about your take on Bill Belichick and why you don’t think he’s like that. How do you think he differs?

(26:22) What did you notice as far as the leadership styles and personalities of coach Wooden and Bill Walsh?

(30:35) Coach Wooden seemed to have this ability to internally balance, work-life balance. Walsh didn’t have a sense of balance and it seems like he was emotionally volatile. Am I right in that observation?

Don’t be so concerned with making a living that you forget to make a life.

(34:43) When you hear the word successful, what is the first thing that comes to mind?

(35:20) If you could have dinner with one person you admire, past or present, who would it be and why?


Van Gogh

(36:41) What is next for you? Do you have any writing projects that you’re hoping to get done? What’s next in your career?


Website: coachwooden.com

Steve Jamison on Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Steve-Jamison/e/B00455TQLU/


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