Episode 071: Systems Thinking in Schools w/ Daniel Goleman and Peter Senge

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I had the chance to communicate with Daniel Goleman about coming on this podcast.  I’ve been a huge fan of his work on emotional intelligence.   Due to his busy schedule, we’ve agreed to pull a great conversation between Peter and Dan from his website, Morethansound.net, which provides a great look at systems thinking and why it is so critical in schools today.

Goleman’s most recent book, The Triple Focus:  A New Approach to Education, co-written by Peter Senge from MIT, explores the notion that students are entering a fast paced world…full of distractions and growing interconnectivity.  There are three core skills that are essential for students to master:  the understanding of oneself, others, and the larger systems in which they operate.

I’m excited to bring this conversation to you.  Enjoy!

WORD OF NOTE:  For listeners who are interested in Goleman’s work, there is a great bundle package opportunity that includes four of Daniel’s books, including:

  • The Triple Focus:  A New Approach to Education
  • Cultivating Focus:  Techniques for Excellence with Daniel Goleman
  • FOCUS for Teens:  Enhancing Concentration, Caring & Calm with Daniel Goleman
  • FOCUS for Kids:  Enhancing Concentration, Caring & Calm with Daniel Goleman

Guest Bios:

Daniel Goleman is an internationally known psychologist who lectures frequently to professional groups, business

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audiences, and on college campuses. As a science journalist Goleman reported on the brain and behavioral sciences for The New York Times for many years. His 1995 book, Emotional Intelligence was on The New York Times bestseller list for a year-and-a-half, with more than 5,000,000 copies in print worldwide in 40 languages, and has been a best seller in many countries. Apart from his books on emotional intelligence, Goleman has written books on  topics including self-deception, creativity, transparency, meditation, social and emotional learning, ecoliteracy and the ecological crisis.

The Harvard Business Review called emotional intelligence— which discounts IQ as the sole measure of one’s abilities — “a revolutionary, paradigm-shattering idea” and chose his article “What Makes a Leader” as one of ten “must-read” articles from its pages. Emotional Intelligence was named one of the 25 “Most Influential Business Management Books” by TIME Magazine. The Financial Times, Wall Street Journal and Accenture Insititute for Strategic Change have listed Goleman among the most influential business thinkers.

Goleman is a co-founder of the Collaborative for Academic, Social, and Emotional Learning (www.casel.org), originally at the Yale Child Studies Center and now at the University of Illinois at Chicago. CASEL’s mission centers on bringing evidence-based programs in emotional literacy to schools worldwide.

He currently co-directs the Consortium for Research on Emotional Intelligence in Organizations (www.eiconsortium.org) at Rutgers University. The consortium fosters research partnerships between academic scholars and practitioners on the role emotional intelligence plays in excellence.

Goleman is a board member of the Mind & Life Institute, which fosters dialogues and research collaborations among contemplative practitioners and scientists. Goleman has organized a series of intensive conversations between the Dalai Lama and scientists, which resulted in the books Healthy Emotions, and Destructive Emotions. He is currently editing a book from the most recent dialogue on ecology, interdependence, and ethics.

Peter Senge is a Senior Lecturer in Leadership and Sustainability at the MIT Sloan School of Management.

The Journal of Business Strategy(September/October 1999) named Senge one of the 24 people who has had the greatest influence on business strategy over the last 100 years. The Financial Times (2000) named him one of the world’s top management gurus, andBusinessWeek (October 2001) rated Senge one of the top 10 management gurus. Senge has lectured extensively throughout the world, translating the abstract ideas of systems theory into tools for better understanding of economic and organizational change. He studies decentralizing the role of leadership in organizations so as to enhance the ability of employees to work productively toward common goals, and the managerial and institutional changes needed to build more sustainable enterprises—those businesses that foster social and natural as well as economic well-being. Senge’s work articulates a cornerstone position of human values in the workplace: namely, that vision, purpose, reflectiveness, and systems thinking are essential if organizations are to realize their potential. He has worked with leaders in business, education, civil society, healthcare, and government.

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